Comments on: Krugman: A Reckoning for the Media Machine http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/ Rory O'Connor's blog Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:25:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Bonnie Wheeler http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-60 Thu, 12 Aug 2004 01:20:50 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-60 galld, are you calling all of us hate mongers? I thought it was just a discussion with cc,mike, and myself. Rory, all I know about O'reily is what I heard him say once; that he is a Democrat..he doesn't act like a Dem. or Republican..More like an Independent. I agree..time to get off the subject..we're getting nowhere. PS. galld, are you calling all of us hate mongers? I thought it was just a discussion with cc,mike, and myself.
Rory, all I know about O’reily is what I heard him say once; that he is a Democrat..he doesn’t act like a Dem. or Republican..More like an Independent. I agree..time to get off the subject..we’re getting nowhere.
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]]> by: Rory O'Connor http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-59 Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:34:04 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-59 Folks: I love interactivity as much as the next guy, but my feeling is that perhaps Bonnie and CC have both made their points and we can move on? Unless of course anyone wants to spend more time on Bill O'Reilly...in which case I'm all ears. For my part, having attended high school with the prevaricating pundit, having worked with him at the ABC affiliate in Boston, and having once been invited on his show -- but then disinvited when I wouldn't parrot his program narrative that the BBC was really "the Baghdad Broadcasting Service" -- I can affirm that the man is a liar, a bully and a fraud -- just for starters. Moreover, he is decidedly NOT a Democrat, as Bonnie wrote above. Folks:

I love interactivity as much as the next guy, but my feeling is that perhaps Bonnie and CC have both made their points and we can move on? Unless of course anyone wants to spend more time on Bill O’Reilly…in which case I’m all ears.

For my part, having attended high school with the prevaricating pundit, having worked with him at the ABC affiliate in Boston, and having once been invited on his show — but then disinvited when I wouldn’t parrot his program narrative that the BBC was really “the Baghdad Broadcasting Service” — I can affirm that the man is a liar, a bully and a fraud — just for starters. Moreover, he is decidedly NOT a Democrat, as Bonnie wrote above.

]]> by: galld http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-58 Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:20:30 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-58 Another topic take over by the hate mongers. Remember, it's not just governments who lie. Another topic take over by the hate mongers.

Remember, it’s not just governments who lie.

]]> by: Bonnie Wheeler http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-57 Wed, 11 Aug 2004 13:53:42 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-57 Michael, life is not simple..it isn't black and white...Yes, sad that it is necessary to bomb at times. I believe that a person should kill only in self-defense...Hiroshima was self-defense. If an evil person were to come into my home and try to murder my family, I would try to kill them first and if I were alerted that they were on the way, I would meet them before they got there...Same thing with my nation. Yes the life of my family to me is more important than another; Saving American lives is more important to me than saving Iraq, Japan or any other nation...As for O'reilly, He tries to be fair and unbiased, however he doesn't always..like this swiftboat exposure or non-exposure of Kerry. I believe both sides should be heard and let the people decide. He doesn't. I think the President has done wrong in distancing himself from this group and he has no right to ask them to stop the ad.I, along with many others have written him about this. They have stated that they will not stop, even if he asks them to because this isn't about the Presidency..this is about veterans who think they got a raw deal from Kerry. I think the people should listen to both sides and decide whose telling the truth here. Never before in history has a person received that many medals in 4 months.Many are interested in how he did this.Either side could be politically motivated, however I have noticed that the most adamant one in this group is Democrat and one that Kerry called and asked to help form a group of Nam vets to promote him. He, thinking it was Bob Kerry who was calling was willing, until he found out that it was John on the phone; he, then,refused Mike,...Your political view is your business. If you like Kerry, it's your right to vote for him..That's exactly who Osama and Hussein would vote for if given a chance to vote here. I prefer someone who will defend America. Mike, one more question...was Madelyn Albright speaking of those children that were killed in this war or those who were tortured and murdered by Hussein? Even Howard Dean in a letter to Clinton July 19, 1995 was suggesting Clinton go to war to stop those tortures by Hussein. CC,..is there anything in Kerry or Clinton that I would want my grandchildren to emulate? Not one thing. There are some things about Bush some that I would ..His honesty, Love of nation, his faith, his commitment to wife and family, his decisiveness and his views on defense. His action during teen-age years was not one I would like them to emulate, however most teen agers do the same thing. O by the way..which of my political views do you find extreme, my belief that politicians should be honest. Or the fact that I believe that it's ok for a leader to have a faith in God, or is it my views that America should be militarily strong and prepared to defend at any time.Those are the views of all the founders and the views that our nation was established on. CC, I would urge you not to put yourself on the same level as Clinton, Kerry and Edwards(who made 27 million off the backs of small businesses in 4 years) True America is not Hollywood: Its' real down to earth people. Perhaps when the election is over, Hollywood and Kerry can stop politicing and get back to doing what they do best; pretending to be someone they are not. Michael, life is not simple..it isn’t black and white…Yes, sad that it is necessary to bomb at times. I believe that a person should kill only in self-defense…Hiroshima was self-defense. If an evil person were to come into my home and try to murder my family, I would try to kill them first and if I were alerted that they were on the way, I would meet them before they got there…Same thing with my nation. Yes the life of my family to me is more important than another; Saving American lives is more important to me than saving Iraq, Japan or any other nation…As for O’reilly, He tries to be fair and unbiased, however he doesn’t always..like this swiftboat exposure or non-exposure of Kerry. I believe both sides should be heard and let the people decide. He doesn’t. I think the President has done wrong in distancing himself from this group and he has no right to ask them to stop the ad.I, along with many others have written him about this. They have stated that they will not stop, even if he asks them to because this isn’t about the Presidency..this is about veterans who think they got a raw deal from Kerry. I think the people should listen to both sides and decide whose telling the truth here. Never before in history has a person received that many medals in 4 months.Many are interested in how he did this.Either side could be politically motivated, however I have noticed that the most adamant one in this group is Democrat and one that Kerry called and asked to help form a group of Nam vets to promote him. He, thinking it was Bob Kerry who was calling was willing, until he found out that it was John on the phone; he, then,refused Mike,…Your political view is your business. If you like Kerry, it’s your right to vote for him..That’s exactly who Osama and Hussein would vote for if given a chance to vote here. I prefer someone who will defend America.
Mike, one more question…was Madelyn Albright speaking of those children that were killed in this war or those who were tortured and murdered by Hussein? Even Howard Dean in a letter to Clinton July 19, 1995 was suggesting Clinton go to war to stop those tortures by Hussein.

CC,..is there anything in Kerry or Clinton that I would want my grandchildren to emulate? Not one thing. There are some things about Bush some that I would ..His honesty, Love of nation, his faith, his commitment to wife and family, his decisiveness and his views on defense. His action during teen-age years was not one I would like them to emulate, however most teen agers do the same thing. O by the way..which of my political views do you find extreme, my belief that politicians should be honest. Or the fact that I believe that it’s ok for a leader to have a faith in God, or is it my views that America should be militarily strong and prepared to defend at any time.Those are the views of all the founders and the views that our nation was established on. CC, I would urge you not to put yourself on the same level as Clinton, Kerry and Edwards(who made 27 million off the backs of small businesses in 4 years)
True America is not Hollywood: Its’ real down to earth people. Perhaps when the election is over, Hollywood and Kerry can stop politicing and get back to doing what they do best; pretending to be someone they are not.

]]> by: onenationunderdog http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-56 Wed, 11 Aug 2004 05:16:49 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/08/05/krugman/#comment-56 One more thing-- it makes me sad to read you describe the atom bombing of Hiroshima *and Nagasaki* as "necessary." Consider how even hardened Madeline Albright <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/07/30/1519218" target="_blank">regrets having said</a> that the deaths of a half million Iraqi childrens' from U.S.-imposed economic sanctions was "worth it." Sure, tell me that Saddam was also to blame for their deaths. I agree with you. Does this erase what our government has done? No. Do any justifications for the only use to date of nuclear weapons lessen the horror of it? If we are truly value human life, if we truly oppose such barbarism, we must also be critical of ourselves. And you think the media is "liberal"?! How many minutes of airtime or inches of print have spent debating our immense holding of WMDs, our role as a premier arms dealer, our consistent undermining of treaties aimed at non-proliferation? Perhaps we should stop debating for a moment and just <a href="http://members.aol.com/drovics/hirol.htm" target="_blank">read this</a>. "No life is worth more than any other." --Michael Franti ("Crazy, Crazy, Crazy") One more thing– it makes me sad to read you describe the atom bombing of Hiroshima *and Nagasaki* as “necessary.” Consider how even hardened Madeline Albright regrets having said that the deaths of a half million Iraqi childrens’ from U.S.-imposed economic sanctions was “worth it.”

Sure, tell me that Saddam was also to blame for their deaths. I agree with you. Does this erase what our government has done? No.

Do any justifications for the only use to date of nuclear weapons lessen the horror of it? If we are truly value human life, if we truly oppose such barbarism, we must also be critical of ourselves. And you think the media is “liberal”?! How many minutes of airtime or inches of print have spent debating our immense holding of WMDs, our role as a premier arms dealer, our consistent undermining of treaties aimed at non-proliferation?

Perhaps we should stop debating for a moment and just read this.

“No life is worth more than any other.”
–Michael Franti (”Crazy, Crazy, Crazy”)

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