Comments on: Shoot the Messenger http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/ Rory O'Connor's blog Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:29:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.5 by: Pat Childs http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-233 Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:11:36 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-233 If you want to solve a problem, first you have to figure out what the problem is! The problem is NOT that John Kerry and Bob Schrum lost the presidential election. John Kerry won in a landslide!! When the exit polls came in, Karen Hughes sat George W. Bush down and told him that he had lost the election and he was O. K. with it! Then they started getting the data from the vote counting machines and Bush was winning! Several counties in Ohio had many thousands of votes more than they had registered voters!!! In every case where the computer shows thousands more votes than the exit polls, Bush is the beneficiary! With all the chicanery going on with the voting machines and vote counting machines, the exit polls are the only thing we can depend on!! And they say that Kerry won by a landslide, which is what most people expected and with good reason!! John Kerry had done a masterful job and so had Bob Schrum. Everything was going our way! But the Bush people did a terrible sloppy job of vote fraud. They added like 7,000 votes for Bush in a county that only had 600 registered voters! And all the others were like that! They didn't think anyone was going to notice? They didn't think anyone was going to do something about it? There's no sense in even having another election until we can do something about the voting and vote counting machines and ensure that the Republicans can't cheat!!!! If you want to solve a problem, first you have to figure out what the problem is! The problem is NOT that John Kerry and Bob Schrum lost the presidential election. John Kerry won in a landslide!! When the exit polls came in, Karen Hughes sat George W. Bush down and told him that he had lost the election and he was O. K. with it! Then they started getting the data from the vote counting machines and Bush was winning! Several counties in Ohio had many thousands of votes more than they had registered voters!!! In every case where the computer shows thousands more votes than the exit polls, Bush is the beneficiary! With all the chicanery going on with the voting machines and vote counting machines, the exit polls are the only thing we can depend on!! And they say that Kerry won by a landslide, which is what most people expected and with good reason!! John Kerry had done a masterful job and so had Bob Schrum. Everything was going our way! But the Bush people did a terrible sloppy job of vote fraud. They added like 7,000 votes for Bush in a county that only had 600 registered voters! And all the others were like that! They didn’t think anyone was going to notice? They didn’t think anyone was going to do something about it? There’s no sense in even having another election until we can do something about the voting and vote counting machines and ensure that the Republicans can’t cheat!!!!

]]> by: galld http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-215 Fri, 12 Nov 2004 05:50:35 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-215 Who said Kerry lost? Ohio recount may come sooner then expected. "Go Green!" Retreat remains a viable military tactic. Early bird may yet consume the worm. A long shot. Who said Kerry lost?

Ohio recount may come sooner then expected.

“Go Green!”

Retreat remains a viable military tactic.

Early bird may yet consume the worm.

A long shot.

]]> by: MK http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-214 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:42:33 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-214 When Kerry beat Dean in the primaries, I railed against Dean's inept media handlers and, particularly, the failed team of Trippi McMahon & Squier, who produced his mediocre television ads. I felt strongly that Dean was the better man, the better candidate, and would make a better President than Kerry, but it was indisputable that Kerry had a better media team. Though I was heartbroken and angry at Dean's loss, I tried to comfort myself with the knowledge that, in many ways, it was more important to choose the better media team than to choose the better candidate if the purpose was to beat Bush. After all, the media team to a large extent "creates" the candidate for the tv-watching masses. When Margolis was forced out of the Kerry campaign, I was panicked. For good reason, it turns out. It's a crime that Shrum was unable to capitalize on all of the amazing cards he was given - that is, all the ammunition on Bush. He failed even to sell a simple story about what had gone wrong in the Bush presidency and how Kerry would turn it around. It's criminal. Great commentary, Rory. I'm sorry that you were right, though. I sense this is one case in which you'd have been happy to admit you were wrong (if Kerry had won). When Kerry beat Dean in the primaries, I railed against Dean’s inept media handlers and, particularly, the failed team of Trippi McMahon & Squier, who produced his mediocre television ads. I felt strongly that Dean was the better man, the better candidate, and would make a better President than Kerry, but it was indisputable that Kerry had a better media team.

Though I was heartbroken and angry at Dean’s loss, I tried to comfort myself with the knowledge that, in many ways, it was more important to choose the better media team than to choose the better candidate if the purpose was to beat Bush. After all, the media team to a large extent “creates” the candidate for the tv-watching masses.

When Margolis was forced out of the Kerry campaign, I was panicked. For good reason, it turns out. It’s a crime that Shrum was unable to capitalize on all of the amazing cards he was given - that is, all the ammunition on Bush. He failed even to sell a simple story about what had gone wrong in the Bush presidency and how Kerry would turn it around. It’s criminal.

Great commentary, Rory. I’m sorry that you were right, though. I sense this is one case in which you’d have been happy to admit you were wrong (if Kerry had won).

]]> by: nt http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-213 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 18:45:14 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-213 Well, it happened every 4 years. Shrum is speechwriter not a strategist although he wants to sell himself as such. We should not support any candidate in 2006 and 2008 if they employ Shrum. Well, it happened every 4 years. Shrum is speechwriter not a strategist although he wants to sell himself as such.

We should not support any candidate in 2006 and 2008 if they employ Shrum.

]]> by: cs http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-212 Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:02:19 +0000 http://www.roryoconnor.org/blog/2004/11/10/shoot-the-messenger/#comment-212 Kerry was the candidate. If he allowed Shrum to run the show, that was his choice and the loss is his responsibility. Either Kerry didn't didn't understand what it took to get the job done, or he didn't want to be president badly enough to do it. This world is in crisis over the end of oil. Kerry had to have known that. He let the guy who could sell the peak oil crisis as a clash of of cultures and religions win. I suspect he didn't have an alternative plan . . . Kerry was the candidate. If he allowed Shrum to run the show, that was his choice and the loss is his responsibility. Either Kerry didn’t didn’t understand what it took to get the job done, or he didn’t want to be president badly enough to do it.

This world is in crisis over the end of oil. Kerry had to have known that. He let the guy who could sell the peak oil crisis as a clash of of cultures and religions win. I suspect he didn’t have an alternative plan . . .

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